Thank you very much for answering my questions on the name Josephus. and returning to Westtown.
Why would they come back to Goschenhoppen to have several of their children? This does not make any sense to me, I guess that is why I ask question. I have always asked questions when I don't have or do not know answers.
I have documentation stating Peter and Judith Osborne were in the immigration wave of 1711 to come to this country. I would have copied the big long list of approximately 40 papers of people in the many boats they listed, but I did not have the ink to do so. Peter's father it states sighed his certificate. Peter stepped foot on American soil and died shortly there after. Judith Osborn then married Harvey. Harvey may have gone to America with the Osbornes but he married her in America. I read a meeting minutes that states the men of the church thought it would be a good idea for her to married for the sake of the children and she married Harvey. Several documents on that. I got it off the Quaker website for Chester County, Pa. I have several papers stating the marriages etc. Peter and Judith brought at least five children with them when they came over. Elizabeth, Charles, Peter, Susannah, and Samuel. I did not document the Harvey children which I can do.
As far as wills go, I have Samuel Osborn, Westtow 1785 to 1791; Phebe Osborn, Westtown 1783-1784; Peter Osborne, 1813-1814; Elizabeth Osborn, widow, West Goshen, 1824-1824; Samuel Osborne, Westtown, 1785-1791; Phebe Osborn, Westtown, 1783-1784, all of these from the Chester County website. I do not have a will from Joseph Osborne. Peter Osborne, Westtown, 1813-1814, left son Joseph, residue of estate, paying legacies. Which I assume means the ret of what went to the rest of the family, then Joseph got the rest. Elizabeth Osborn, widow, West Goshen, 1824-1824 leaving a lot of household goods to the daughters, Mary Taylor, Francis Strode, Hannah Gheen, Elizabeth Bede. I have all kinds of copies of wills from the family.
I have all the taxes paper I could get from the Chester County website. Peter and Samuel's names are all over them. They paid tavern taxes which I assume they own or at least ran taverns. The wills give large tracts of land to various memebers of the family, Osbornes or in-laws. Indiana County has quite a bit of information.
I did not trace Peter 1675 son, Peter Jr.He had a son, Peter, 1706, married to Hannah Pachsel, I did not trace that line as my line was Peter's son, Samuel born 1711. Must have been a babe in arms coming across the ocean,
Cetificate reads as follows:
Philadelphia, Pensylvania Quakers Arrivals.
Part II 1706 to 1724
Peter Osborne, of Wolverhampton , Staffordshire, England with wife Judith, and children, date 7 mon., 11, 1711 from Mo Mtg at Rubley, Staffordshire. Also in the same certificate are mentioned. Thomas Nichols, wife Mary and children from Staffordshire, England, Among the signers are, Charles Osborne and John Till. Received 6 mon. 29, 1712.. Original on file.
I have Peter dying 2 Jul 1712, and being buried in Philadelphia.
Joseph was Peter (1742) third child, born to Elizabeth Hunt Osborne on 30 Jan 1771 in Westtown, Chester, PA. Died: 10 Sep 1853 and buried in Pennsbury, Chester, PA.
My Samuel married Frances Buffington, 05 Feb 1738, Samuel Jr married Sarah Thatcher, 1759 and then married Phebe Yearsley, 8 May 1777, both were in Chester, Pa.
I got all my findings from familysearch.org, Each county archives through the census I go to. In the upper right hand corner of each county of each state there is a block to click on and that takes you to the county archives.
I have been told that the Amish website familysearch.org is one of the best for following family lines there is. HOWEVER I have found quite a few discrepencies. I have traced about six families through that website and they give you dates like people dying 400 years before they are born. They give the disclaimer that it is up to you to decypher which is right and which is wrong and then make the appropriate corrections. I wander around the web, any suggest I look at and decide if I can use it or not. I do not accept anything that comes down the pike. I usually try to document the dater or the fact and back it up.
I have a few gray areas and that is the main reason I have gone to genforum to ask questions and find some answers. I did not know who Joseph Senior married and I found out it was Elizabeth Worrel Yearsley, documented. I had a Joseph Jr or Josephus, who was Joseph Senior? If there is a junior there has to be a senior. I am a Junior and I had a Senior for quite a few years until 1995. I have two loose leaf notebooks full of data collected. And several boxes.
What burns me up is I was in the US Air Force and stationed in England about fifty miles from Wolverhampton. It would have been easy to visit the city. I did not start the family line until after the Air Force when a cousin sent me a letter asking me questions. This was thirty years ago and I have been at it ever since. The computer has made things a lot easier.
A lot of the names you have given me are Juniors to the line I have for my family. Sons of. I am going to dip into the pool starting in England soon. I have gone back to Charles of Wolverhampton, 1645.
Is the Goschenhoppen Church a Quaker church? Just wondered. Like I said I have a Joseph Jr with several children born in Goschenhoppen and the rest are born in Indiana County. Why the moving back and forth? I think Joseph Sr. went back to Westtown to die and left son, Joseph Jr to run the land business and he kept coming back to report on the holdings.
My Grandmother gave me a picture of my GG Grandparents James and Rebecca Osborn. Must have been a 40th or 45th wedding anniversary as they did not quite make it to 50 years. The picture had E. Clark Hall, Brookville, Pa on the bottom of the picture.
I had always assumed Marion, Franklin, County, Pa was James' birth place. Well, Marion was, Marion Center, Indiana County, Pa. Then I found out that half of his brothers and sisters were born in Indiana County and surrounding counties and half were born back east in Berks County. Tht is about 250 to 300 miles in between. I trace the Joseph Osborn family to York County in 1840 as that is where I can only find the Welder Family. James took off for Ohio and Rebecca Welder followed shortly afterwards.