I ran FIXME and it seemed to run ok but when I reran PACK it came back with the same 41 error. I created a duplicate file and it was reduced a little but not much. I don't recall the power going off or the program not shutting down properly. Is it possible that the backup file is that much smaller than the operating file? Is the backup file compressed? If so perhaps I just haven't noticed the difference. It caught my attention when I went to back up the library file and it gave me the message that the file was 3001873 and would take several minutes to back up. I had never gotten that msg before for the libary file. I always get that msg when I back up the main file. Perhaps I just hadn't noticed those large numbers, what do yo think? Thanks for all your help.