Greetings Barbara, and thanks for your offer. I think that I am completely off course here. My intent was to ID the ship Patricia's dad may have crossed to ETO on (assuming that he was army). I matched a sailing date found in TROOPSHIP CROSSINGS WW II, and noted Steve Hatch's name associated with his dad's, in an attempt to tie PPL's dad to his dad, and both to 5th ID. Now I feel certain that I am looking for the wrong man in the wrong banch of service. Like the man said, you can't win them all. Sorry to have wasted your time too Louie.