Thanks Jean for the link, I have had a look and adoption may be a possibility. I will see what else I can find following that line. I haven't as yet purchased Bertha's death certificate but may have a clue as to where she was born, the info I have is from BDM and also her headstone at Sandgate Cemetery. Bertha was the partner of my aunt's first husband, so we haven't gone into her too much, but will still try to tie up this line. Thanks heaps Jean. Regards Janet.