Thank you so much for this info, it was something we never looked at as we had no idea of parents, as despite every certificate that we have purchased, and there have been quiet a few, nothing helped. The brother Alfred and George who is mentioned being in Melbourne and his profession a Tanner looks like you have finally given us the breakthrough we need. George is Bootmaker on one of the certificates and his son in law was a tanner so it is adding up. This will help us greatly, once again, thank for your help. Regards Janet Hutchins.