Hi Don and thanks. Do you mean you get info from the local library or the geneaology library. I never thought to try the ordinary library. Where do you live ?? It may be a larger place than Gympie. Anything you have with regard to MULVIHILL will be appreciated. It is all a matter of collating the info ( when a spare minute pops up ) I have commenced putting certificates in order then I get side tracked and start on something else that has caught my eye. I think I may have asked you what tree are you following ( another reason for correct filing putting all messages away !! ) Have to go have a storm brewing hope it brings rain and cools us down a bit. cheers from Anne M.