Hi Bette - sorry too long in getting back to this!! I did look at the marriage notice and it did have William HILL and Mary CATTAL as parents. (Not on the Certificate of Marriage I had). Done some looking into marriage records and census records in England with no luck! :( One person told me to relook at the record and see if it was Heris England or Herts England and as I looked I realized that the person crossed all the t's the same way so Alfred HILL was born in Herts, England. Again I've done some searching - no luck!! Thank you for prodding me to relook at that record!!