According to the 1880 census of Arcata, Humboldt Co., CA. John Smith was b. ca. 1835 and his wife, Margaret, was b. 1846. This means that John may not have been the s/o Stillman Smith (b. ca. 1844 in the 1851 census), but still probably the one who m. Margaret Isabella McKenzie in 1870. There were three Margaret McKenzie's in Charlotte Co., NB in 1851, b. ca. 1797, ca. 1826 and ca. 1807. Margaret b. Scotland ca. 1797 was the wife of John McKenzie, Jr. (b. Scotland ca. 1798.) Margaret b. NB ca. 1807 was the wife of John McKenzie 3rd b. NB ca. 1803. (Note, 'Jr.' here is not the equivalent of 'son of'. There were three John's, apparently noted in order of age. John, Jr. and John 3rd lived very near each other in St. James Parish, may have been related but obviously were neither brothers nor father and son. There does not appear to be a John, Sr. at the time, so the continued differentiation suggests that one of these (likely John, Jr.) was, in fact, a son of an older John. (As it turns out, it appears that John 3rd was likely the s/o John, Sr.) But that is speculation at this time.) Neither has a daughter, Margaret. John, 3rd, however, does have a daughter, Isabella b. ca. 1844. If her mother was Margaret, she may well have gone by her middle name. In fact, Margaret Isabella McKenzie (b. 22DEC1844) and her sister, Flora Elizabeth McKenzie (given as b. the same day but b. ca. 1848 in 1851), are specifically stated to be the daughters of John McKenzie 3rd and Margaret when baptized by the Rev. Andrew Stevens in Scotch Ridge Presbyterian Church, 23FEB1845. (I suspect that Margaret Isabella did have a twin sister, Flora, who died young and another sister, also Flora, was b. ca. 1848.) Daniel and Annabell McKenzie also had two children baptized the same day, and are likely relatives.
According to an index of marriage bond, when George Blaney m. 1870 Margaret McKenzie, both were from Charlotte Co., NB, and the co-signer of the bond was John Smith, also of Charlotte Co. I cannot help but feel that the groom and co-signer have been switched. George Blaney, b. ca. 1845, was also from St. James Parish, Charlotte Co., NB.
So, we appear to have Margaret's parents, and a closer location: i.e., St. James Parish.
Another baptism was for Angus (Agnes) McKenzie (daughter of John and Margaret (Campbell) McKenzie) b. 21DEC1834. Their daughter, Barbara Jane McKenzie was b. 26MAY1837. Agnes (ca. 1834) in 1851 is the d/o John, Jr.; so it appears that John Jr. m. Margaret Campbell. John, Jr. lived, in 1851, next to Daniel McKenzie (again, suggesting they were all an extended family.
A John and Margaret McKenzie also had twin sons, John and Thomas, b. 20JUN1834. John, s/o John, Jr., was, in 1851, b. ca. 1824, so this would appear to be John and Thomas (b. ca. 1834; although Thomas' age is left out) sons of John 3rd in 1851. It might be worthwhile reproducing the 1851 census of John 3rd's family:
McKenzie John, 3rd. M Husband 48 Scotch Farmer & Prop.
McKenzie Margaret F Wife 44 Scotch
McKenzie James M Son 19 Birth
McKenzie John M Son 17 Birth
McKenzie Thomas M Son Birth
McKenzie Peter M Son 15 Birth
McKenzie Hugh M Son 9 Birth
McKenzie Isabella F Daughter 7 Birth
McKenzie Flora E. F Daughter 3 Birth
There are also the 'McKinzie' families in 1851, but none look so good to be Margaret's family at this time. It might be worth noting John 'McKinzie' b. Scotland ca. 1776, with a wife, Rosannah (b. Scotland ca. 1776) who arrived in 1803. Perhaps this is John McKenzie, Sr.
From this, one might suspect that John Smith b. ca. 1835 was also from St. James Parish. In 1851, there were two John's, one b. ca. 1813, one b. ca. 1841. They were, unsurprisingly, father and son. The elder John's wife was Mary A. (b. NB ca. 1815) and John was b. Ireland arriving in 1821. It would seem, then, that in 1851, John Smith is not likely in St. James Parish.
121 John Smith's were in New Brunswick (not counting the areas for which the census returns have been lost) in 1851. 24 of these were b. 1835 (give or take 5 years.) 6 were in Charlotte Co.
is given the family:
SMITH: John Smith b. Jun 1781 Scotland, d. 27 Dec 1834: they came from Sutherlandshire, Scotland to NB by 1804 and settled in St. Stephen, Charlotte County: married Catherine Grimmer born 14 Dec 1791, d. 26 Aug 1856, d/o Thomas Grimmer and Lydia Wey:
1) William Smith b. 29 Jun 1809, m. Mary - : settled in St. Stephen and had at least two children:
2) Mary Smith b. 25 Jan 1811, d. 3 Jan 1832:
3) Thomas Grimmer Smith b. 29 Feb 1812, d. after 1851: settled in Charlotte County:
4) John Smith b. 11 Nov 1813, d. 25 Dec 1831:
5) James Smith born 15 May 1815, died after 1851, m. Kesiah - : settled in St. Stephen and had at least one child:
6) Sarah Smith b. 17 Mar 1817:
7) Margaret Smith b. 1 Mar 1819:
8) Jane Smith b. 17 Mar 1821:
9) Hannah Hayden Porter Smith born 14 Feb 1823, d. 19 May 1904, married John Campbell Weatherby: had thirteen children:
10) Catharine Smith born 23 Jul 1825, d. 26 Jul 1904, m. 2 Jul 1846 Richard Weatherby and had thirteen children:
11) Jesse Smith born 26 Jan 1827, d. 5 Aug 1905, married Amy - : settled at Old Ridge, Saint Stephen Parish, Charlotte County:
12) John Smith born 7 Apr 1832, d. 10 Dec 1913 in California, married 1869 Margaret Isabella McKenzie of Scotch Ridge, Saint James Parish, Charlotte County, b. 15 Dec 1844, d. 10 Oct 1908: settled at Bayside, CA: four children:
13) Mary Elizabeth Smith born 5 Jan 1833.
Source: MC80/1682 Jean M. Parker’s David Wetherby (1784-1845) of St. Stephen, New Brunswick, pages 53-57.
(Note that Margaret's birth-date in her baptismal record (22DEC1844) appears to have been unknown to the compiler, so the date given here (15DEC1844) appears to be from another source.) This family, in St. Stephen Parish in 1851 is:
Smith Catharine F Wid 60 Native
Smith Thomas G. M Son 39 Native Farmer
Jane F Daughter 28
Smith Jessie M Son 24 Native Farmer
Smith John M Son 18
Smith Mary E. F Daughter 16
with next door:
Grimmer Jessie M Head 43 Native Farmer
Grimmer Elizabeth F Wife 49
Grimmer Simean M Son 21
Grimmer Elizabeth J. F Daughter 9
which appears to support the family outlined above. See also"
which has a photo of John and Catherine's headstone. Also see:
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