So glad to have found your posts!Here’s what I have found:
ANNE Gartlan b. July 5, 1873 per LDS Batch #C701539, Date 1873, Source Call #0255884 Father:James GARTLAN Mother JUDITH nee SLEVIN The LDS source is allegedly from Dublin. RGA(?)
When I first found that, my first thought: Is it possible Anne Gartlan’s father (James Gartlan) died and Judith nee Slevin Gartlan then married Patrick Burns?After reading your posts, that seems highly unlikely; however, it is not so unlikely they may have been related. Let me explain…
St. Joseph’s has provided three Birth/Baptismal Certificates* for three of my great Aunts and one Uncle.They were born in the 1882-1888 period.These were products of a search from 1881-1900 of a search by Fr. Seamus Morris(sp?), P.P., St. Joseph’s Church in 1982.
My G-Grparents are listed as Patrick BURNS and JUDITH GARTLAN “of Farthagorman, Diocese of Clogher, Parish of Mhacaire Rois (aka Carrickmacross.)”
The Burns children were: _ James (psbly b. March 5, 1878) _ Peter (psbly b. 1879) _ Anne _ Margaret “Maggie” (my Grandmother b. February 3* or April 4, 1882) _ Twins: Catherine “Katie” and Patrick “Packey” (b.May 6* or April 15, 1885) _ Julia (b. October 23, 1888*) _ A female (name unknown.) According to a cousin, there were nine children
Judith nee Gartlan Burns is alleged to have died within 24 hours of giving birth to the last female, but the date is unknown.
Re: female/name unknown – Several weeks after Judith died, Patrick Burns placed this infant in an orphanage.“At a very young age” she married a Mr. Rooney, “a widower with children”.They remained in Farthagorman in the home Patrick Burns built for his wife Judith GARTLAN Burns in 1800’s.As of 1974, one of the Rooney daughters was still living in the place.
If you have Birth/Baptismal Certs from St. Joseph’s, have you noticed anything odd about the records?I have.All of the children were baptized exactly four days after their alleged DOB.Only one of the DOB’s listed was actually used by the children as adults (Julia’s.)In one case, the birth and baptism dates listed were two months PRIOR to the DOB that appeared on their death certificates.On another, Judith was listed as “Julie”, which may have been the result of the priest having heard Judith referred to as ‘Judy’ and interpreted it as Julie.Yet all the other info was true and consistent.
'Seriously questioned whoever copied the information from the original record at St. Joseph's (re: the dates) to the Certificates we were sent, as well as the accuracy of the search itself.Then again, the children may not have known their true DOB’s … or changed the dates themselves when they emigrated to the U.S. for whatever reason, but for what reason when all but James were sponsored?
Would you care to post what names, dates and info you have that have been verified, and those that are possibles?