Hi Debra, Thanks for message. I dont know of any obvious connection but it looks interesting! Unfortunately I am on holiday at the moment and dont have data to hand. As best I recall Clarence was the 4th or 5th child of Alfred Sydney (or Sidney) Campbell b about 1856 in Victoria(?), and Elizabeth Hart of South Australia. I have pedigree of Elizabeth but I have never been able to trace the origins of Alfred Sydney Campbell and have never found any marriage between them(if indeed there was one). I had assumed that Alfred was not registered at birth or had changed his name. I have never looked for a NZ connection. Do you know your grandfather's origins? I will get back you to in a week or two on return to Oz. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. Bye for now. Ray.