Thanks for your reply. There is a group of us following the Koontz family around. Currently we have a stumbling block in Virginia Ca mid 1740's We can not discover with any certainty the origin of Balthazar Kuntz. If you would like to join us e mail me at I really am not@ hotmail . com. (Just mush that all together so there are no spaces.We collect Koontz from any where and we think we may get to the Carloinas or PA. The more Eyes and research ideas the better.