I have read Albert Welles book published in 1880 and the manuscript of Samuel Flower published in 1883 and R.A.Oakes on the History of Jefferson County published in 1905. These authors appear to give a major difference of Lamrock Flower's ancestors. Welles and Samuel Flowers similar but Oakes very different. Any knowledge who is correct? I have printed two sources below: Samuel Flower first and then R.A.Oakes.
Genealogy Flower Family of New England... by Samuel Flower
Springfield, Mass. Curtis P. Wells,.Printer 1883
According to Sir Edmund Burke, a branch of the noble family
of Flower was anciently seated at Oakham, in the County of
Rutland and possessed Estates held of the Lord of the Manor
by featly only, the greater part of which was sold in Queen
Elizabeth's time by William Flower, a younger son of the
family, to Hugh Booth, Rector of Cassington, in Leicestershire,
1. William Flore, or Flower, of Oakham was sheriff of the
County of Rutland, loth of Richard II.,1386, and its Representative in Parliament the 6th and 8th of that King, A.D.1382-1384. By his wife Helena he had issue--
2. Roger Flower, born about A.D. 1360, He was successor
to his father. He was Knight of the Shire for Rutland county, 10th Richard II, (1396), and 1st and
4th of Henry IV. (1399) and (l402),and 2nd Henry V. A.D. 1414. He was in the 4th, 5th and 7th
years of the last reign, and the 1st of Henry VI.,(1429),
Speaker of the House of Commons. He was a person of great notein the said town and county. He died in 1434, and left issueby Catherine, daughter and heir to William Dalby, of Exton,in the County of Rutland, five sons and one daughter. His eldest son was—
3. Thomas Flower, born in Rutlandshire, Eng,, about A.D. 1400.Thomas Flower of Oakham—eldest son of Roger Flower, was Sheriff of the County of Rutland in 1430; and three years after, returned by the King's Commissioners (who were appointed to take an account of all the gentry of England), as being one of the Gentlemen of that county, of which he was again Sheriff in 144l, 1450,l456,1465 and 1470. He Married Agnes, daughter and heiress to Richard Saltby, of the county of Lincoln, and dying in l473,left Roger, his son and heir.
4. Roger Flower, born in Rutlandshire, Eng., About A, D. 1430.
He succeeded to his father at Oakham and by Jane, daughter and co-heiress to Sir John Fraunces, of Burley, was father of—
5. Sir Richard Flower, born at Oakham, in Rutlandshire, about A. D. 1435(I, Peter Lagasse, question this date)- He removed to Whitwell in same shire.
Sir Richard Flower in 1501 was a Knight and Sheriff of the County of Berks, which Office he served for Rutlandshire in 1507, and died in 1523. His first wife was Elisabeth, daughter and co-heiress of Sir John Tessington,of Stanford, Knight, by whom he had—
6. Roger Flower, born at Whitwell in Rutlandshire, Eng.,about A. D, 1470 (I, Peter Lagasse, states:This birth date is suspect due to his father’s date being suspect), He succeeded to his father at his death in 1523.
He married Dorothy, daughter of Reginald Conyers, of Wakerly,in the County of Northampton, and had issue a son—
Richard Flower, born at Whitwell, in Rutlandshire, Eng., a about A.D. 1500. He married Alice, daughter of Sir John Harrington,of Exton, and had issue a son-
John Flower, born at Whitwell, Rutlandshire, Eng., about A.D. 1530. He was Sheriff of the County of Rutland for the years 1565,1569 and 1577. He married Mary, only daughter of Anthony Colley, of Glaiston, in said shire, by whom he had one son, John,and three daughters, born at Whitwell, in Rutlandshire.
Sir Richard Flower (No.5(note going back to #5)by his second wife, Elizabeth,daughter of William Brookesby, of the County of Lancaster, hadmany children, of whom George was the sixth son—
7. George Flower, born at Whitwell, in Rutlandshire, Eng.,
about A, D.1485 (Peter Lagasse states:This date is at least close to his brother Roger.) He married Margaret, daughter of John Salisbury,Esq., and was father of—
8. Frances Flower, born at Whitwell in Rutlandshire, Eng.,
about A. D. 1520. He was for some time an attendant on St.
Christopher Hatton, Lord-Chancellor of England. His son was—
9. Sir George Flower, Major and Governor, born at Whitwell,
Rutlandshire, Eng., about A.D. 1550. In Queen Elizabeth’s reign(1559— 1604) he was an officer in the British Army, of great skill and bravery, and enjoyed the confidence of the government,and was rewarded in the bestowment of many offices of honor and trust. He died in 1627, and was succeeded by his son—
10. Sir William Flower, born at Whitwell, Rutlandshire, Eng.,about A.D. 1600, He succeeded to his father, Sir George Flower, at his death, about 1628—1630.
Sir William Flower was an officer in the army, and rendered service in the rebellion in 1641, At the restoration of Charles II, he was returned member for Irishtown. Sir William Flower married Frances, daughter of Walter Weldon, Esq., of St. John's Bower,in the county of Kildare, and widow of William Savage; and by her had three sons and one daughter.
ll. Thomas Flower
12. Henry Flower
13. Captain William Flower, born at Whitwell Rutlandshire,
Eng., about A.D. 1637. (Father of Lamrock Flower that comes to America.)
NOW FROM R.A.OAKES BOOK.......
GENEALOGICAL AND FAMILY HISTORY OF THE COUNTY OF JEFFERSON NEW YORK
A RECORD OF THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF HER PEOPLE AND THE Phenomenal Growth of her Agricultural and Mechanical Industries
COMPILED UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE LATE R. A. OAKES
CUSTODIAN OF THE JEFFERSON COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY
COLONEL GEORGE WALTON FLOWER, the subject of the following memoir, was of English descent, his ancestors, known by the name Floier, holding large possessions in Devonshire at the time of the Conquest. One of the ancestors, Captain William Floier, was born near the city of Exeter in 1450 and accompanied the army of King Edward IV in the descent on France in 1490. He married Phillipa Crooke and became later a resident of Willston, Dorsetshire. Of his
three sons, William, born 1530, married Elizabeth Kirk.
(THIS FIRST ABOVE PARAGRAPH DOES NOT AGREE WITH WELLES NOR SAMUEL FLOWER FROM THE BEST I CAN SEE.)
I. From this marriage descended Lamrock Flower, the progenitor of the American branch of the family. He was born in Whitwell, Rutlandshire, England. The date of his emigration is not known, but he settled in 16S5 at Hartford, Connecticut, where he died in 1716. He was the father of eight children.
(There appears to be a major discussion if Lamrock was born in Whitehall,Rutlandshire, or in Parrish of Britton, Gloucestershire, England. Those who have looked through the parish records of both Whitwell and Oakham that are on film for the Rutlandshire area of England can not find any Flowers mentioned. Why this area of England is mentioned by "Genealogy of the Flower Family of New England in the Line of Joseph Flower" by Samuel Flower published in Springfield MA in 1883 can not be substantiated. However, there are some Lamrock Flowers mentioned in Gloucestershire records in the 1700's. A John Flower was Church Warden of Bitton 1740-60 and there were three Lamrocks there in 1716-(Reference "Biglands" Gloucestershire, Chapters 42-122). For now, I am using Britton, Gloucestershire.)
II.. Lamrock, the second child and eldest son of Lamrock ( i ) Flower, was born at Hartford, March 25, 1689. He had a daughter and a son.
III. The son, Elijah, was born April 15, 1717, at Hartford, where, in 1742, he married Abigail Seymour, by whom he had six children.
IV. George Flower, son of Elijah, was born at Hartford, April 26, 1760. He married Roxeline Crowe and soon after the birth of his son George moved to Oak Hill, Greene county, New York. He was the father of ten children.
V. Nathan Munroe, the seventh child of George Flower, born at Oak Hill, December 14, 1796, was married in Springfield, New York,to Mary A. Bo3le, daughter of Philip Boyle, of Cherry Valley, New York. Mr. Boyle was a native of Ireland, coming to this country in his childhood, where in due time he engaged in extensive contract work, being one of the contractors of the first water works in New York city. After his death the family moved to Springfield, New York. Soon
after his marriage Nathan M. Flower took up his residence in Theresa, this county, where he erected a cloth mill, and the business prospered under his intelligent management. For many years he was a justice of the peace at Theresa, and during his residence there one of the most active members of the Presbyterian church. He died April 4, 1843, in his forty-seventh year. Of the nine children born to Nathan and Mary Ann Flower seven were living at the date of his untimely death,
the eldest being but fifteen, the youngest, Anson R., having been born in June, 1843, two months after the death of his father. Mrs. Flower made a brave and successful struggle to rear her young family into meritorious manhood and womanhood. Her children were all born in Theresa. Caroline, the eldest, January 21, 1821 ; Roxaline, March 15, 1826; Nathan Monroe, January 21, 1828; George Walton, August 5, 1830; Orville Ranney, January 21, 1833; Roswell Pettibone, August 8, 1835; Marcus, August 11, 1837; John Davison, April 16, 1839: and Anson Ranney, June 20, 1843.