Phyllis, Thanks for your reply. I have the obit for Thomas Long which told me Paul was in Des Moines in 1973. I, however, do not have the obit for Ervin and am curious where you found it. I would love a copy. Yes, Paul died in 1990. Several years back we connected with Phyllis Tortoro via phone. She talked briefly then informed us that she didn't want to hear from us again. There is a lot of dissention in that family. Paul was like the "black sheep". It seems he dropped out of sight after my husband was born. I'm attempting to get Paul & Ervin's birth and death certificates.
Thanks again for your reply. We'll continue to search. Vickie Ward