Their German name is Gunther so sometimes on the census in Calhoun Co. the name is under Gunther--also I saw a Civil War record with both names.
These Gunter-Kinder's were here in 1850 but I can't find an immigration record for John Kinder aka Gunther.His brother Frederick went back and tried to get their mother to come with them, but she refused (according to family)--but brother George and his wife Caroline Otto came in 1854 and I found those immigration records.A bunch of people from Hanover to St. Louis to Calhoun traveled together.
1850 Calhoun Co., Illinois John Kinder 40Germany Caroline 24 Germany Mary 6/12
1860 Calhoun Co., Illinois John KinderPoint, Calhoun, IL 52 1807 Hannover Male Caroline KinderPoint, Calhoun, IL 34 1825 Hannover Female Mary KinderPoint, Calhoun, IL 10 1849 Illinois Female Charlotte KinderPoint, Calhoun, IL 8 1851 Illinois Female Caroline KinderPoint, Calhoun, IL 5 1854 Illinois Female Sarah Kinder Point, Calhoun, IL 2 1857 Illinois Female Henry ShirtPoint, Calhoun, IL 20 1839 Hannover Male Lewis MiresPoint, Calhoun, IL 30 1829 Switzerland Male
1870 Calhoun Co., Illinois Caroline Kinder 43 Charlotte Kinder18 Caroline Kinder15 Sarah Ann Kinder11 Henry Kinder9 Lecetta Kinder7 John Kinder5 Lena Kinder3
1880 Point, Calhoun, Illinois Carlin Gunther50 widow Carlin Gunther25 Cary Gunther23 Henry Gunther20 Lisette Gunther 18 John Gunther16 Lina Gunther12