Thanks for your reply. Yes my machine is definitely lacking something, my son says its the monitor. He got these two computers for free a couple of years ago when his then-boss was putting in all new computers, and just gave Robbie two computers. Robbie upgraded from 3.1 to windows 98 + but my monitor seems to be getting fuzzier all the time. Thanks for the info , I think i can figure it out. doesnt each number go by ten years, of course I would appreciate any help you could give at that. I saw my james in there and I was thrilled, plus all these other Clarks. Looks like I am on to something here if I can just decipher the ages of all these people. Guess I will take you up on your help. I am still shaky from having composed a very long email on some info someone had asked for, and my computer developed a fatal flaw just as I went to send the email. I had just spent about forty minutes worth of typing, my machine froze, had to restart it, and looked in the outbox, no email but looked again and found it had been saved so I didn't lose my work after all. So I sent it off after all,after I had said a few bad words to my machine. Thanks again.