Hi Shirley, Marilyn forwarded this info to me and how great to have a relpy on this posting. This has been our joint brick wall. Royal would be my GGG grandfather and sadly I have little info on him. He married Avis Crocker,I have even less info on her,and that is my line, he then married Sarah Wonsey after Avis died, which is Marilyn's line. I would be interested in the deeds as I know of several family members so some of the names could be children or other relatives. His first born son, Royal Jr is also becoming something of a brick wall. He married in New Buffalo, Berrien County MI and from there I have little on him every thing is on his wife Martha Lamphier. Let me know what I need to get the copies. Thanks Karen.