Thank you so much for answering my post.I had Ellen's information but not the citation, but I did not have Andrew's information.Andrew would have been Ellen's nephew and my great uncle.Unfortunately, my grandfather was adopted and I never knew any of my Smathers relation, but I am curious to know more about this John in McArthur. It has to be some relation. Can you give me an idea of the age he was. It might be Andrew's cousin (I think some of that family worked in a brickyard) or it could be one of the later children or grandchildren that I haven't yet found. The John I am thinking of was born in 1893. I don't know much about him accept thathe died in 1979. I don't know if he married or had children.I'm curious, because many of the Smathers were dark haired and dark complexed (although some have red hair) what was this John's coloring? You can answer back here or e-mail me at email@example.com.Thanks again for answering my post.I live in Northwest Ohio so my knowledge of Vinton County is very little.