Hi Virginia It really is nice to find family.You can email me direct at firstname.lastname@example.org and I will give you my phone #. and we can talk and compare notes. I will bring you up to date with my side of the family. So the Fred I found in the 1830 census is the third brother! but not my great grandfather. Dates are wrong for Fred and Edith. I have a picture of Fred & Ediths 50th wedding anniversery. along with a family picture of the ones that were there. Do you happen to know who Elizabeth Premers parents were? the one that married Hiram?