I'm looking for all the Sharp & Ross families of Washington District., Pendleton Co., S.C. , Abbeville, Laurens CO. & 96th Distrist of South Carolina in the 1700's.I am specifically looking for Elizabeth (Betsey) Ross born around 1777 married to Isaac Sharp of 96th District SC. Does anyone have family trees or information on the Ross & Sharp families here? Elizabeth (Betsey) Ross is suppose to be of American Native Heritage.I would like to know who her parents and relatives were, and if she has Cherokee Native genes?
Thanks, Patricia Faye (Sharp-Alley) Gaddie
Clues that I have:
96th district: Laurens Co., SC
Sharp, Isaac (4 white females)
Sharps on 1790 census SC: Isaac, John, Robert, Sarah, William, Christopher, Edward, James:
Ross' on the 1790 census SC: Andy, Arthur, David, Elizabeth, Francis, George, Isaac, James, John, Joseph, Kenneth, Malcom, Richard, Robert, Sarah, Thomas, William:
CD3_010 , SHARP, MARY, JONES , JOHN, Dec ,28,1769 ,NC & SC Mar Records, SC
CD3-006, SHARP, MARY, JONES , JOHN, Jan ,11,1770 ,The SC GAZETTE, SC
firstname.lastname@example.org ,SHARP , Mary, JONES, John, Dec ,28,1769 ,CharlestonSC
CD3_012 , SHARP, MARY [Mrs], FORDHAM, RICHARD, Jul ,09,1778 ,SC Mar 1693-1842, SC
CD3-006, ROSS, ELIZABETH, CARSAN, ARCHIBALD, May ,20,1784 ,The SC / GAZETTE, SC
email@example.com, ROSS, Elizabeth (widow), CARSON, Archibald, May ,0,1784, Charleston, SC
CD3_010, ROSS, ELIZABETH [Mrs] , CARSON, ARCHIBALD, May ,00, 1784 , NC & SC Mar Records, SC
CD3_012, ROSS, MARY, DONAVAN, MATHEW, May,23, 1768, SC Mar1693-1842, SC
CD3_012, ROSS, SARAH, FEAROW, JOHN, Apr ,22,1773 ,SC Mar 1693-1842, SC
Was Elizabeth (Betsey) Ross a relative to Chief John Ross of the (Cherokee) AhNiYvWiYa Family?
R200ROSSAndrew1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
R200ROSSRobert1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
R200ROSSThomas1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
R200ROSSWilliam1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
R200ROSSWilliam1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
S610SHARPMartin1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
S610SHARPWilliam1779 Old 96th D SCNo Twp. Listed
Does anyone have this book or access to this book?If so could you look for the names I have posted and see what the story is on their Indian Heritage.Elizabeth (Betsey) Ross is suppose to be related to Chief John Ross of the 1700's.She was married to Isaac Sharp.They had a son named John Sharp born abt 1798.I have found a John Sharp listed as living in a Cherokee villiage in South Carolina in 1748.He was a trader.This is the title of the book:
"South Carolina Indians, Indian Traders, and other Ethnic connections beginning in 1760"
Genealogist and author Theresa Hicks, at age 70, has spent a lifetime researching South Carolina's white American Native connections, resulting in this massively detailed book which has won rave reviews from Southern historians and archivists.If yourancestors are from South Carolina and have possible Indian connections, you'll be interested in this book. A significant contribution is made through her research on Indian traders and their lives, and the 104 page index contains over 17,700 entries, the mass majority being individual names!
P. 430. Ezekiel and Rhoda Stanley $200 to Peter Keys, Washington District., Pendleton Co., S.C. Big Generosity Creek on Savannah River 122 acres, 29 Sept. 1798. Wit: Wm Ross, David Ross.
Neat story about the Cherokee...sounds closer than what I've seen so far.They talk about the 96 in SC.
I think it must have then became the old 96 district. "The place that became the Ninety Six at first was merely a convenient campground along the Cherokee Path on the most direct route from the Native American towns to Charleston.Before permanent settlers made their way to the Backcountry, Native American traders had developed a brisk commercial trade with the Cherokees"The first actual white residents near Ninety Six were hunters who arrived about 1730 and threw up "open log cabins," or crude three-walled shelters, for hunting camps."
"The up-country of South Carolina which includes Spartanburg County was ceded to the English by the Cherokee Native Americansin 1755. Spartanburg was the frontier next to the Cherokee Nation. Among the earliest settlers in Spartanburg County were the Scots-Irish immigrants from Pennsylvania, the Native American traders, and the Cowmen. At first, they lived in peace with the Cherokee Native Americans, but during the Native American Wars, they lived in fear and built several forts, including Fort Prince, Gowen’s Fort, and Fort Nichols. In 1776, the present day Greenville County- Spartanburg County boundary was established to separate white man’s territory from the Cherokee nation."
I was searching for Andrew Ross on google.com because he appeared on the 96th Old District of Laurens Co.
SC. I thought these Ross' might have a connection to my Elizabeth (Betsey) Ross wife of Isaac Sharp of Laurens Co. SC.,96th Old District also. I found it interesting in this article that an Andrew Ross is mentioned along with Chief John Ross.Judge Andrew Ross, brother of Chief John Ross and s-in-law of George Lowrey. Ok George Lowrey brother was John Lowrey. John had a daughter named Elizabeth "Betsey" Lowrey Pack. I'm wondering now if Andrew Ross might be a lead for my Elizabeth (Betsey) Ross?
This article has lots of clues I think about the geography of the SC / GA / AL / TN areas and family
ties(from article found at following quoted web-page):
"John Lowrey died in 1817 at age 42. His brother, Major George Lowrey was m to Lucy Benge, daughter of Urtah and "Old Trader" James Benge, non Indian. Two of Lucy's brothers were thought to be Old Tassel and
Doublehead. John's daughter Elizabeth "Betsey" Lowrey Pack, the widow of non-Indian, William Shorey Pack, in
spite of her father's service to the Americans, would be forced to sell her plantation, Rose Hill, located near present day Fort Payne Alabama and go on the (Nunna-da-ul-tsun-yi) trail of tears, settling in Flint District, now Adair county, Oklahoma. Her son Thanas Jefferson Pack, would also remove."
"From HARRISON NOTES January 1997 Part 4 / Charles W. Johnson. /8514 Rockmoor, San Antonio, Texas 78230 / ©1997 Charles W. Johnson, M.D." / Partial summary quote of article at:
"24. Harrisons Institution, P O Box 96836, Washington, DC 20090-6836 dated Aug 16, 1906 from Florence McClure, with copies to numerous scholarly institutions to do with Indians. Mrs. McClure is in the process of writing a book on her husband's ancestry. He is a descendant of William Shorey, a noted Scots Trader who was also the interpreter for Fort Loudon at the time of the massacre, and his wife a full blood Cherokee of the "(Bird Clan)"
[my interjection here is that what they referred to as the Bird Clan was probablythe Red-Tail Hawk Clan because there isn't a Bird Clan in the Cherokee Family] , Ghi-goo-ie. John Ross, the Cherokee Chief also comes from this line. His grandmother, Anna Shorey McDonald was their daughter, wheras her husband descends from their son William Shorey, known by his Cherokee name Eskaculiakee, which he used to sign the 1805/6 treaty. Her husband is 1/64th Cherokee."
"William Shorey, the elder, was her husband's 5th great grandfather. Errors were made by early historians and genealogists as they thought the elder and the younger Shorey were the same. The elder Shorey died at sea in 1762 when he was acting as interpreter for three Cherokee Chiefs, including Ostenaco, going to London to see the King. The English say Shorey was poisoned. Lt. Henry Timberlake says he died of consumption. Wm Shorey the elder and Captain John Stuart were two of a handful that were permitted to leave Ft. Loudon prior to the massacre of Captain Demere and his men after the fort was surrendered. (I mentioned Timberlake earlier as one of the pioneer explorers and leaving Cherokees named Timberlake around. Captain John Stuart was a very important Scots/Englishman to do with Southern Indians before the Revolution for the Colonial Government and no doubt had an Indian wife or two)."
"Elizabeth Shorey was the grandaughter of William Shorey and Ghi-goo-ie, and married Lt. Col. John Lowrey, also 1/2 Cherokee, the son of George Lowrey, a non Indian, a trader who m Nannie, the grandaughter of Oo-loo-tsa, the father of her mother, Ghi-go-ne-li, father is unknown but it is believed Nannie (Nancy) had a sister, to carry on her mother's name, who married Edward G (Gunter?) and died in 1842." "(parenthetical remark mine)"
"Mrs. McClure was president of the Nevada League of Women Voters in 1972 when she visted the Octagon House in Washington DC for a meeting and at the time did not know about her husband's 4th great grandfather, Lt.
Col John Lowery as the head of a delegation of Cherokees who met with President Madison in 1815 at the Octagon House, which was serving as the "White House" at the time while renovations were going on at the White House after the War of 1812. John Lowrey died in 1817 at age 42. His brother, Major George Lowrey was m to Lucy Benge, daughter of Urtah and "Old Trader" James Benge, non Indian. Two of Lucy's brothers were thought
to be Old Tassel and Doublehead. John's daughter Elizabeth "Betsey" Lowrey Pack, the widow of non-Indian, William Shorey Pack, in spite of her father's service to the Americans,would be forced to sell her plantation, Rose Hill, located near present day Fort Payne Alabama and go on the trail of tears, settling in Flint District, now Adair county, Oklahoma. Her son Thanas Jefferson Pack, would also remove. Former Cherokee Chief Wilma Mankiller (I saw her on TV a year or so ago and was much impressed) lives in that county and told Mrs. McClure in May 1995
that there are still numerous Pack family members there."
"Comment: I am a bit confused. I see on a map where Elizabeth Pack lived in Alabama and where her father
lived and I can see that she "had to sell", but she also had the Reservation of 640 acres in Marion County, TN, as did Thomas Harrison and she essentially gave that property away to the City as the County seat. She had a preferential title in fee simple for that 640 acres - not just for life. I suppose that many of these who "had to sell" did not have to do so according to law but "had to" because of other forces such as persecution and outright theft of their livestock and property by no-good whites. We generally hear of the white Georgians as being so evil, but I
wonder about Tennesseans such as in Marion County, and Alabamans and North Carolinians. Was Marion County
being in Tennessee considered safer for prominent Indians than nearby Georgia? and is this why they took
reservations there? What was the role of the Tennessee Land Company in all this? They were there earlier than
when all this was going on, and I guess that it was a financial failure, so maybe not involved at all in this spiriting of
Cherokee lands from the Cherokee."
"SOUTH CAROLINA NEWSPAPERS - THE SOUTH-CAROLINA
GAZETTE 1760 by Mary Bondurantr Warren, 1988
PAY LIST OF THE OFFICERS AND MEN OF COL. RICHARDSON'S BATTALLION EMPLOYED ON THE CHEROKEE EXPEDITION. He was from St. Mark's Parish and drew his men from the Upper Santee and Wateree Rivers area. This is beginning on p 88 under the heading of LYTTLETON'S TROOPS 1760. I will pick out a few items.
Capt. Samuel Canty
William Bently Cater, Drummer.
Benjamin Lord, dead, from 6 Oct to 17 Dec
Capt. Moses Shelby
Sgt. Samuel Loftain
Privates (a bunch of interest to my Johnson research but not Harrisons)
Capt John Canty
Capt Thomas Simpson
Sgt Robert Patterson (Patern)
Thomas Patterson (Patern)"
"I notice many more of interest to me concerned with my SC ancestry and I am not so sure about that statement that these were from the upper Santee and Wateree area. Probably true but some appear to me to be further west in Newberry, Laurens and Abbeville areas, though they did not have those county names in 1760 but were "96th District". Of course this is especially interesting with Private Thomas Harrison in Capt John Canty's Company. This is not likely the same Sergeant Thomas Harrison of a few years earlier commanding Fort Prince George in the area. I suppose that this military operation was to march on a punitive expedition following a number of massacres
by Cherokees and to destroy Cherokee towns and crops, and was very effective. Of course Ft. Loudon was a
major defeat. There were some Harrison families in this Wateree/Santee area, and at some early point the
Saluda River was also called the Santee, which made sense as it was really the same river. The Saluda extends west all the way to NC. Of the Harrison families of the area we have to think of the Burr Harrison family and Joe Hammond's Harrisons of Fairfield and others."
More of article:
"Tressie is well positioned in Oklahoma City for
Indian research and also she has been doing that
research before we came up with all this Cherokee
stuff about Harrisons. She has especially been working
on the Watts (Cherokees). She says that the Iredell
Co. NC Gen. Soc. assures her that the Watts of Iredell
County are not the ones she is interested in.. but
there could be
a connection with the Joseph Watts who died in Rabun
Co. GA in 1847."
"She sent from SEQUOYAH: THE CHEROKEE GENIUS p 28-29...Sequoyah moved from Tuskegee to Willstown, now the site of Ft. Payne, AL, the former stronghold of the Chickamaugan Cherokees. It was originally "Red Headed Will's Town" named for the trader Will Webber when this was Creek territory (Perhaps the nearby Creek's Path has something to do with change of ownership there too). Willstown was at one time the hone of John Watts, Dragging Canoe, the Bloody Fellow, Bob Benge or the Bench and other Cherokee war leaders. The village sat next to Will's Creek in a Pine forested valley between the elongated ridge of Lookout Mountain and the Racoon Mountains. (Though this is in Alabama this should be very close to Marion Co. TN where there was a Thomas Harrison Reservation and Elizabeth Pack.. Sequoyah lived 3 milas from George Lowrey and there was a Mission there at Willstown. Lowrey's home was a showplace surrouned by 200 acres. Elizabeth Pack lived in Willstown as did Judge Andrew Ross, brother of Chief John Ross and s-in-law of George Lowrey. '
"Sequoyah (George Gist/Guess) was one of six chiefs of "The Creek Path towns". The Mission at Willstown was
connected to the Missionary William Chamberlain through the Lowerys for establishing a school. ('this is the same Chamberlain who was involed with Catherine Brown who taught at Creek Path town and very close to Gunter and Thomas Harrison). p 127 is a map of the above area which is virtually at the intersection of TN, GA and AL, in the valley between Lookout Mountain and Raccon Mountain, south of the Tennessee River, but close to Marion Co. TN... But since Elizabeth Pack lived in Alabama but got her reservation in Marion Co. TN, then it is also
reasonable that Thomas Harrison of Alabama also got his reservation in Marion Co. AL. This might indicate
that the "two" Thomas Harrisons and the two Thomas Harrison Reservations, were really one reservation and
one Thomas Harrison... but then again there is the full blooded Cherokee named Thomas Harrison previously