Thanks to Janet, I have found out that my g.g.grandfathers name was Rolley. Have been researching today and found that there are a couple of Rolleys and a John R. in the Givens family. There is a Roley listed on the 1850, Pulaski Co., Pulaski, Missouri, age 32 born about 1818 that would qualify and have read several postings here about this one but I have my doubts. My g.grandfathers name was James Givens. He was born in Missouri about 1855. He married Perlina Elizabeth in Texas about 1880-90. They had four children, Lou Ella, Clarissa Elizabeth, Mary Ellen(my grandmother) and Dolly Jim. I understand from reading some of the postings here that Clarissa may have been a name that was often used in the family. It seems that James may have been also, John R. givens father is listed as James and his mother as well as his wife were Elizabeths. According to family history, there was a falling out in the family because they did not approve of Perlina Elizabeth. If anyone has any further information or could steer me in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it. I also read on one of the postings about a book that had been written on the Givens, if someone could tell me the name of it and possibly where I might find it, I would like very much to read it.