Thank you Sandra for the information, that is some information that I didn't have, but the plot thickens!!. Calvin C. Perry b abt. 1832-7, is the father of my gggrandfather Henry Belton Perry, but Phebe is not Henry's mother, his mother is Creasie Carter (according to the Okla. Hist. Society) and Henry was born in 1854.also Creasie was a slave. Thank you, and if you run across anymore info, please feel free to contact me and Thanks again.