Again you throw out more ridiculous assertions. Why don't you admit thatthe things you say are guesses. To slam the people who are our relatives who lived in Laurens their whole life is very low on your part. I believe they would have much more knowledge of our family then you ever will. As far as William is concerned I have been in contact or met people from every one of his children. Somehow we all come up with the same conclusion. Also my family haspassed down the tradition of William to John. The one trait of our family you do have is stubborness . This debating is going no where . You can believe what you like, but I ask that you say it is your believe and not make it sound like a fact. You are doing the same thing that was done in the Martin Dial book, I don not want future generations thinking your guesses are facts.