I have been looking for Clarence Abrams, I found a Clarence in 1880 married to Mary.At that time they were living with a Jacob Valentine family in Oyster Bay. I looked for Clarence in the 1870 census and found a Clarence living in Savanah, Wayne Co. NY. with his Grandfather, but when I looked deeper he was there also in 1880 and single. I hope this helps you as I believe they are two different people. Clarence and Mary E Smith ABRAMS are my GGrandparents.