I just went thru the census for Christian Winebrenner. That 1764 date for his birth must be wrong. The 1800 census shows him as over 45 which would mean he was born 1755 or earlier. Christian Jr. is shown as 26-44, which makes him born 1755-1774, so maybe he is the one born 1764. So that makes Christian Sr. quite able to be my Catharine Martin's father. Hooray!!