Thank you . I had caught that after I had written the message, I had the info in from of me, sometimes I do such dumb things. I get so caught up in this , I forget my head. Our ggggrandmother, Cordelia's (Catherine we think was her real name) grandfather was a brother to Pres. John Quincy Adams. It must be Thomas (1772), but now THIS is where I cant go any further. Most papers say his brother,Charles had just girls. So Thomas' son are: Thomas Boylston(1809), Isaa hull, John Quincy (1815), and Joseph Herrod. One of these men had a son. THAT is my Answer. He would be Cordelias dad, and then one of these men i just listed would be her grandfather. Thanks for any info I can get.