Sir, my problem is the little I have on John says he was born 1802 VA. There is oral history that says they lived in South Carolina, how true it is.....who knows? Did the John you are talking about disappear? Our history says, that as a young man he took off to trade with the Indians, when he returned the family had moved on, and he never located them again. I know his wife was from GA, and they lived in Tn, Ky and then Saline Co IL on the 1850 census, then wife and children were located in White Co IL on the 1860 census. Son Stephen came back from CW ill, he died shortly after his return. His youngest sisters tried to collect on hispension unsucessfully, they state that parents died, John "Q" before 1860, and mother,Ailsey "A", just after 1860. So not much help there, according to last girl's birth, I'd say about 1857-1860, Ailsey before 1865. The rest of the family were in Jackson Co Il by the 1870 census. Another thing I might add, Ailsey evidently loved KY, as she changed everyone's birth to KY, even son Thomas who was born in TN changed his birth to KY. So looks like to me that after John died, possibly no-one for sure knew anything about anything. My ancestor, Anderson kept the original birth place etc. Sorry to run on, possibly someone will also read this and know something about them. Thank you.