Re: Frederick Ades b1882? Eng.

Christine,

This is fantastic - I have only been playing around with trying to trace back my family roots, but each time something new comes up, I get hooked even more!

Your reference to S.Ades as a Lieutenant in the Army is the same as my fathers father - my grandfather, born in Croydon on 18/5/1895.

His (Spencer's) father was Charles Edward Ades, who married Alice Mary (nee Ades!) in Ealing on 14/11/1891. We think that Charles Edward may have been a twin, and I am checking into this.

Both my father and his father were twins (boys), and identical.


Alice Mary's father was Henry ? Ades, a 'gentleman'.

Charles Edward's father was Thomas ? Ades, also a 'gentleman'

Back to Spencer - I have a photo of him (called the 'Terrible Four') that shows he and three of his army colleagues of the 6th Kings Own Royal Lancashire Regiment, all in tropical uniform, and prior to his injury in WW1, so it must date from early 1915 I think. He is decorated at the time, and ranked as a Lieutenant. It was rare to be decorated, so it will be mentioned in Dispatches - campaign medals were not given out until the end of the War.

I also have a photo of Charles Edward, my Great Grandfather, sitting on a bench at Brede Chapel (not Church), Brede Place (not Brede Village), as a middle aged man (undated).

The whole thing that spurred me into tracing back was this - there is a family story that Brede Place was once owned by an ancestor of mine, and this is where the Spencer connection was made - Earl Spencer of Brede etc.

It is going to get worse for future generations to do this - I have 5 children, and guess what - two of them are identical twins!

I would love to hear anything you have in terms of further or related information, for there must be a connection somewhere along the line.

Please feel free to mail me direct, or contact me through my website, www.consult-us-solutions.com.