Andrew Agnew, 2nd of Whitehills
John Agnew+ d. 1723
James Agnew+ d. 1681
That John date is wrong. It is John buried Ballymoney.
John Ballymaglaff's date of death is unknown but is after his son Alexander Ballymaglaff died 1700- the gravestone can be accessed
Here's an old post of mine
"At last the threads come together!!!
James Balloo b 1645-1681 m Helenor Jamieson, James will mentions brother John of Ballymaglave, Ballymaglaff, Belymaglach(same place but the spellings I have seen) Co Down. Witness James Ross, buried Bangor OldAbbey (I think). Sisters were Mrs John Heron, Mrs Robert Wright Mrs John McGarvy. He mentions 4 children, no names! But there is a will for Alexander of Ballymaglaff will 1722 says in Book of Agnews but headstone says 1700. He makes Alexander of Balloo his overseer so sound related Bk of Agnews says cousins and probably correct.
Comber graveyard( Co Down near Balloo): "Here lyeth the body of Alexander Agnew of Belymaglach who departed this life 29 Aug 1700 aged 52 years
Also his wife Jean McQuoid who departed this life (07) Dec 1723 aged 71 years."
Alex will says one pound a quarter to his father John. He also speaks of Alex of Balloo. Jean McQuoid will in 1723 does not mention father in law so must have died. Anyone has that will I would be most interested to see who got the place etc.
My distant cousin says our family tradition is that from 2 soldier brothers from the lowlands who went to Carrickfergus then family to Dromore and then to near Moira. That would skip Balloo.
In 1669 John Agnew had one hearth in Middle Carrickfergus, Andrew Agnew had 2. In 1637 John Agnew of Ballyhampton got Kilwaughter. 1669 all 3 of the Alexander Agnew leases from Earl Antrim? went to John Agnew. In 1654 John Agnew and his mate James Shaw (Ballygally Tower House)complained about Patrick Agnew I guess getting leases in Kilwaughter (doc in Edinburgh). If anyone is interested in the Shaws I some info there and the Kilwaughter Agnews. The John and Andrew in Carrickfergus sound a bit like John Ballymaglaff and Sir Andrew John's uncle. Andrew was second in line at that stage Lt Col James was the eldest and Sir Patrick outlived James.
1717 James Agnew emigrated to USA had land at Maske Manor. So the wills in Ireland post 1717 wouldn't mention them we suppose."
Here is another old post
"Wayne and Shirley,
Great list of docs.
Are they still in existence? Scottish Records Office perhaps. Can't get Dumgal.gov.uk to open- maybe there?
I remember searching uk manuscripts somewhere and I saw that the deposition of John Agnew and James Shaw complaining about Sir Patrick of Locknaw getting lease on Kilwaughter bits(?) 1654 from McDonnell Earl of Antrim is in Edinburgh Records somewhere. I searched the Manuscripts Commission or something.
Does anyone have access to where these docs are stored?
Shirley I noticed this- sorry for the cross posting and Jacqueline Haugseng brought my attention to it.
"Surnames: Adair, Agnew, Houston
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The Tennison Groves abstracts were not on film, but the PRONI reference number is T/808.
(Diocese of ?) Connor,
Will dated 24 Feb 1758. Proved 8 January 1771.
James Agnew of Dunagor in Dunagor (Donegore) parish Co. Antrim (Northern Ireland), carpenter.
To son John (Agnew) what belongs to the latter at present and
Farm at Ballysavage.
Farm in Dunagore to daughter Elizabeth and son James under 12
4 youngest children Agnes Samuel Elizabeth & James
James Agnew of Tobergill & Samuel Agnew of Dunagor both in
Dunagor Parish Co. Antrim
James ADAIR Samuel Beck John Agnew
Administration to Samuel Agnew.
There was a Samuel Agnew who had sons:
David Agnew m. Jane Erskine.
Any information on Samuel, Andrew & David Agnew appreciated. Thankyou.
(Diocese of ?) Connor,
Will dated 2 Nov 1788. Proved 27 May 1791.
James Agnew of Tobergill in Dunagore (Donegore) Parish Co. Antrim.
Lease of part of Tobergill in Dunagore Parish Co. Antrim.
held from the Earl of Donegal (Chichester ?) for 41 years or 3 lives
from 1 May last (1788) to daughter Henrietta Agnew.
2ls (may mean 2 lives) to son Pigott Agnew £5 to latter's son
£5 to Pigott's daughter Henrietta Agnew at Wynard
daughter Mary Mordach - her daughter Henrietta Mordoch under
16 son in law James Mordach a tenant of a smal (sic) farm of
testator's at £6 yearly rent
daughter Elizabeth Agnew.
Executors Jn (?) Charles Adair of Loughmore
Robert Adair of Brookfield
Benjamin Adair of Parkgate
Overseer of Will John Caldwell of Ballymoney
Robt Waters Edmund Kenan James Johnson
M Probate to Benj Adair
From: Wayne Hannay [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Thursday, 25 November 2004 4:29 AM
Subject: [WIG LIST] Agnew Family, co. Antrim.
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From: Shirley Walsh
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 11:20 PM
Subject: Agnew Family, co. Antrim.
The daughter of Benjamin Adair b. 1687 and Ann Crymble, Elizabeth ADAIR, m. John AGNEW of Derra (perhaps diocese of Derry).
Perhaps may be more information in the Agnew Family of Lochnaw, Wigtownshire, Scotland papers -
Irish Estate, Kilwaghter / Kilwaughter (near Larne)co Antrim AD1636-1712 :
Sorry about all that but I believe, well quite sure really that John Agnew of Derra is John Agnew of Parish of Finvoy, townland of Derra (also spelt Dirraw). That is near Ballymoney in Co Antrim.
Book of Agnews shows that John Derra par Finvoy, had the lease of half of Tobergill from Benjamin and Ann Adair who had it from Earl of Antrim (plantation was a bit of a pyramid scheme) And I see above says held of Earl of Donegal ie Chichester, but he had maybe got it from Earl of Antrim?
John neatly marries Elizabeth Adair in 1707 Bk of Ags say , but somewhere else I see Shirley you have a precise date 1710.
James Agnew the carpenter, close relative of James Agnew of Tobergill and maybe son of Samuel of Dunegore?
John Derra par Finvoy dates are 1640- 1723 and buried in Ballymoney Old Graveyard. Eliz Adair is involved in lease renewals, rentals etc after John Derra's death. Says children listed as William, John, James and Mary. The leases of half of Tobergill and the executors being the Adairs is the link. So I would say that John Derra is James of Tobergill's father though as the marriage date is too late maybe his grandfather, and James d 1758, perhaps son of James son of John Derra. Bk of Agnews says that John Derra (if I got it right!) is also brother of James of Balloo 1645-1681. And that they are both sons of Alexander of Whitehills. Alex is in the 1684 curates census in Sorbie Parich at Whytthills with his successor Androw and their wives(?). But Bk of Agnews talks about John replacing name Alex in all the leases from Earl of Antrim after 1660s however obviously alive and well in his Tower House at Whytthills long after. But the politics of that century are very involved.
Graveyard Name : Donegore CI
County : Antrim
Civil Parish : Donegore
Town / Townland : Donegore
Other Information : [Sandstone Headstone With White Inset, Also Stone Slab On Ground With Metal Surrounding] [James Agnew 26/02/1758, no will found, Elizabeth Adair 06/03/1772, no will found, Margaret Lee 27/05/1804, no will found, James William Agnew, M D, 20/08/1823, no will found, Ann Agnew 21/05/1840, no will found, Margaret Horseman 21/10/1842, no will found, James Agnew, M D, 11/12/1843, no will found]
Sacred to the memory of James Agnew, who died 26th February 1758, aged 50 and Elizabeth Adair his wife, who died the 6th February 1772, aged 54, also of Margaret Lee, the beloved wife of their son James, M D, who died the 27th May 1804, aged 53, and five of his children, Viz, James, Eliza, and John who died in infancy, James William, M D, who died the 20th August 1823, aged 36 and Ann, who died 21st May 1840, aged 50, also of his adopted daughter Margaret Horseman, who died 21st October 1842, aged 66, died at Ballyclare [sic], 11th December 1843, James Agnew, M D, aged 89 years, [Stone Slab] Here lieth the body of James Agnew who [February] [26th]  aged 0 years, Ja Jul 5th 1782 [Eripuere Pulellaine] January 19th An 1786 Hebdom Febris Removir
OK enough, I need to go slash the paddock as the day is going in.
Anyway you can see no mention of an Alexander in the Donegore lot....
Also Alexander Agnew and likely his brothers were possibly at the Battle of Lisnagarvey, now near Lisburn Co Antrim.I think Jame Agnew in charge of the muster at Comber- have to check in the 1640s not sure if against the Irish or English Parliament forces.
The rank of Lt Col did not exist then so dont know where folk get that. Possibly a Coroner (which implies aristocrat) but more likely a Captain- a high rank at the time for gentleman in the old use of the term.
And I think that we go from the John Agnew in Carrickfergus. That's because the eldest son of James Agnew buried Dromore cathedral was a John. Drat cant find the details- another day.
I am very happy to find someone interested in discussing the details . Im hoping you can help me sort through the data. Though I have tried until I nearly give up. One day the vital piece will pop up. Please dont think that I am here just to trash your or others ancestry- just want to know the truth. BY the way I am hoping to settle this matter with y chromosome dna. I still have to persuade my cousins and "The Agnew" of course. Would your Agnew line be interested?