Of course I bothered to read the thread before responding, Doug. It was in reviewing this thread that I noticed the tired, old anti-Spiro routine, poorly masked in subtlety. This sort of thing remains sensitive to his family, as I'm sure you understand. And as long as the thread remains posted, it's not dead. (Still, I fully expected the "practice-what-you-preach" remark; I only thought it would be spelled correctly.) I'm sure you're quite proud to be an AGNEW, just as our Greek branch is proud to be ANAGNOSTOPOULOS. We share a common interest in genealogy, which shouldn't be tattered by tawdry talk. Peace.