O.K., I might only be 14 but I know more than most of my intermediate family about our history. My tree branches from Germany but I have no clue who you are talking about, only because I have mabey even a million realitives, (not all livig of course!). I have a grandpa named Walter G. Ahrens and a recintly passed away grandmother namer Betty, well that is what we called her, her real name is Elizabeth. They had I think 9 children, mabey 8. They are Catholic and are now spread out over the US, originating from St. Louis. (Where alot of my family still lives today.) If this information sounds some-what familiar, please contact me and I can look the rest of our history, back until BEFORE Columbus.