Hi Karen, thanks for the reply, as you said ,i think we are related but you have still confused me. Is your father the Edward in the 1891 census aged 10 and son of Edward and Ann Norris, this would put his year of birth as 1901/2 and not 1905 as you stated your father Edward was born. I would gratful if you would scan & send me a copy of your photo`s. My E-Mail address is Colinrim @ hotmail.com. ps. I have in the past had some information off Lynette Siler who i think is also related.Regards Colin.