Hi Frank, thanks for confirming Edward Aindow b.1801, i did not know his correct year born or his wifes 1803 in Ainsdale, also i did not know any marrage date. Can you confirm that (a). this Edward was the father of Edward who married Ann Norris, and (b). Edward b. 1801 had a brother John, and (c).Edward b.1801 had parents Anthony Aindow and Mary Molyneux. If you can confirm this then i can move on. Many thanks for your help Frank. ps.i have contacted Karen a few times, yes my Edward is the same, but the last time i contacted her she was loading a new family tree album on her computer and was having problems, we have exchanged info. Again many thanks. Regards Colin.