I think you have got the wrong end of the stick here,most of us fully accept that the modern day definition of 'clan' is family! that is fine, what most of us object to, is the made up history the 'clan' has made up for itself, which I for one feel is deceptive and the least,complete lies at its worst!This has nothing to do with english or American wars so it is not necessary to be sarcastic about it. Peter was just pointing out the fact that the Clan Akins society claims to be something it isn't, can you accept that this is wrong? It would not have gone so far as it has if it was not for the incessant rudness and sheer bigotry of the Genforums "Clan Akins spokeswoman, Julie Akins, whose latest gem it to tell a woman on the Aiken forum that(and I quote )"..she could keep Rodney King some people prefer their own"what a classic!! fully worthy of the SS that one!! I am disgusted by that woman, at one point I was worried that I was being unfair to her and she probably was just a little enthusiastic about her hobby, now I know I was right all along and she truly is a twisted evil individual. urgh!! she makes me sick!