Re: Thomas Alder, Canada
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In reply to:
Thomas Alder, Canada
Toni Terrel 1/12/11
Hi.I don't think Thomas Gilbert was born in India, although I'm pretty sure his father was.Here is a birth record that matches :
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Thomas Gilbert Alder
Name: Thomas Gilbert Alder
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hertford
County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 594 (click to see others on page)
This looks like Thomas living with the Parke family in 1851:
1851 England Census
about Thomas Alder
Name: Thomas Alder
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bengeo, Hertfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Bengeo
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Bengeo
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Hertford
Sub-registration district: Watton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members:
Name Age
John Parke 63b. 1788 Walden, Essex - Wine merchant
Harriett Parke 52 wifeb. 1799 Pattundplace, Middlesex
Charlotte Parke 24 dau b. 1827 Shepherds Bush, Middlesex - Miliner
Sydney Parke 21 son b. 1830 Broxbourne, Hertfordshire - Shipman
Ann Parke 18 dau b. 1833 Ware, Hertfordshire
Frances Alder 3 g-son b. 1848 Guilford, Surrey
Thomas Alder 2 g-son b. 1849 Bengeo, Hertfordshire
All the children were listed as unmarried, so the parents of Frances & Thomas are not there.
Here he is in the 1861 Census:
1861 England Census
about Thomas G Alder
Name: Thomas G Alder
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's name: Gilbert D Alder
Mother's name: Ellen F Alder
Gender: Male
Where born: Benger, Hertfordshire, England
[Bengeo, Hertfordshire, England]
Civil Parish: Bedford St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bedford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bedford
Sub-registration district: Bedford and Kempston
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members:
Name Age
Gilbert D Alder 37 b. 1824 Calcutta British Subjects - Agent for Wine, Spirits & Tobacco
Ellen F Alder 34 wife b. 1827 Broxbourne, Hertfordshire
Thomas G Alder 12 son b. 1849 Benger, Hertfordshire
Louisa E Alder 14 dau b. 1857 Chapmoreston, Hertfordshire
Frances J Alder 13 dau (sic) b. 1848 Guilford, Surrey
In 1871 Thomas is no longer living at home:
1871 England Census
about Gilbert Alder
Name: Gilbert Alder
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen Alder
Gender: Male
Where born: Calcutta, India
Civil Parish: Romford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Romford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: ROMFORD
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Gilbert Alder 47 b. 1824 India, Calcutta (BS) - Mortgage money lender
Ellen Alder 42 wife b. 1829 Broxbourne, Hertfordshire
Frances Alder 20 dau b. 1851 Guildford, Surrey
Here is a passenger list record that could be him:
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Thos Alder
Name: Thos Alder
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Date of Arrival: 8 Jun 1873
Vessel: Nyanza
Search Ship Database: View the 'Nyanza' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Quebec and Montreal, Quebec
Port of Departure: London, England; Plymouth, England
Roll: C-4528
He was traveling alone, listed as a "clerk".
Hope this helps. Annie