Mazine!I don't understand your reply about not beeing in your book.The information I posted is the information from a combination of research and family knowledge.I have since found Bible records for most of it.I talked to Arthur Greely who was born in 1886.He Knew that his father changed his name back to Olterman.He also knew his line back to Jacob who he said was German.I have spent some time trying to verify with documents what he and the family knew in a vague conglomeration of memories.One thing that I have found is, that if you search for Jewish Surnames, you will find the name listed as having originated in the Russian Empire.I believe it is also listed in the book of Pells. I would have to dig in my files for the correct spelling of pells. I also found an immigrant, G. Olterman, who arrived in San Francisco in 1851. I would like to know more about him.An interesting tid-bit; I have a picture postcard of my father-in-law swabbing the deck of a U.S. Navy ship prior to WWI. on which he had written, "arrived in Hamburg this morning. Love to all." This is the same port whereold Jacob embarked. Arthurs ten children have many descendants around East Tn. and across the country. I hope someday that we can all put together the full Alderman, Alterman, Olterman story.convinced that the Jacob who arrived in Philadelphia Pa. and the Jacob in N.Carolina is the same person.I appreciate any information to make positive ties in these lines.Good luck with your research.