Thanks Nancy I am not sure who Abner E Allen is at this time.I do not know his father or mother. I do know he had 2 sons one was Kelly Allen, and James Clark Allen, my Grandfather. He died in July 1926.It seems much was forgotten about the Allen's after that. I did not know my ggrandmother, Susan Smith Allen, until I saw it on the death notice of my grandfather James Clark Allen at the archives in Columbia SC.Whether Susan was the first or second wife of Abner E. Allen,I just do not know.My father said that Abner E. Allen was buried somewhere around Cherokee Falls, S C.I have never seen the graveyard or a marker to find his birthdate.I have the Abner E. Allen of David Allen Sr. I have an Abner Allen born in 1838 to Young Allen and Julius Allen.Also a David HOward Allen who fathered an Abner A;;em by Sarah Francis Mathis Allen.Which one I belong to, I do not know.