Jim, thanks for the reply! I looked at your list of messages, and we don't macth up families, your right, according to the names we have. I don't know where my Allens originated and there was two generations of no family contact that I know of. I didn't learn my great grandfathers, or great uncles names till I was almost 60 years old.( Check out the family picture on Picturetrail.com--- album:allens1800s )It's my only link with the past & one of a kind I'm sure, keen to see old pictures like yhis anyway. Good luck on your searches & thanks again.Dave.