Cindy, thanks for the reply. Although I don't have any(known) Richards in my tree, it sounds like we're both having about the same luck finding our ancestors. Seems like all the Allen families were albe to hide their past real well. I know my dad never talked about his kin at all. If it wasn't for getting some information from my mother before she passed away, I wouldn't even know any of my dad's peoples names. ( Still haven't found where they originated from ). Anyway, I'll post your names on my"Hunt& Seek" list in case I ever come across anything with their names. All my best to you and good hunting --------Dave.