Re: Jane ALLEN m. John GARTEN, Monroe Co. VA
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Re: Jane ALLEN m. John GARTEN, Monroe Co. VA
Alice Reed 9/29/03
Thanks, Alice, for your reply.As you can see, I didn't find it until just now.Sorry 'bout that!
Unfortunately, I think the WorldConnect information is incorrect.I believe the Elijah Garten b. about 1809 is actually John Garten's brother, not his son.I don't have positive proof of that, but by going through a number of other Garten family trees, that's what I've consistently seen.
The Henry Garten b. abt. 1813 who married Priscilla Nickell was from a different line.I show Henry's father as being Uriah Garten, b. 10 Apr 1790 in Greenbrier Co., VA, and Henry's mother as Lydia Carper, b. 31 Mar 1798 in Monroe Co., VA.
The John Garten I'm interested in was b. abt. 1786 in Monroe Co., VA.His descent was as follows:William (b. abt. 1635 in England) ----> Uriah (b. abt. 1675 in Lancaster Co., VA Colony) ----> Elijah (b. abt. 1730 in Spotsylvania Co., VA Colony) ---> Nathaniel ("Natty") (b. 11 Aug 1759 in Orange Co., VA Colony) ----> John.
Jane Allen could very well have been married to John, and they could've had children, but I don't think the Elijah and Henry listed in WorldConnect are right.In the 1830 census of Monroe Co., VA, there's a John Garton (spelling slightly different) listed who may be "my" John.This John Garton is listed with the following family members:
2 boys under 5
1 boy 15-20
1 man 40-50 (John)
1 girl under 5
1 girl 10-15
1 girl 15-20
1 woman 20-30 (presumably Matilda Wray Garten, his second wife, since he married Matilda in 1823)
There seem to be two different groups of children here--an older group from about age 10-20 and a much younger group, three children under 5.This is just what could be expected if the man had been married before and had children, then married again and recently had three others.
I've seen somewhere that John and Matilda had a girl (name unknown) who died young, so she could be the one girl under age 5.By 1830, they also had two boys, Thomas and John, who could be the two boys under age 5.That leaves the older children as possibly being from the first marriage of John to Jane Allen.This makes sense, as I believe John was at least 15 years older than Matilda.
I'm always open to correction or addition, so anyone with further info on John Garten/Jane Allen please let me know either here or at my private email.
Best wishes,
Karen