Joyce, I also have two Larkin Chandlers, one born 1801 SC, the other born abt 1816 NC. The younger one a nephew of the older one.
Supposely the older one was the son of a John Chandler b. abt. 1752 VA or NC died 1825 Buncombe Co. NC married to Diana LNU.Others have him dying in Madison Co. NC. (I don't know for sure).John was supposely the son of John Chandler & Elizabeth Bottom.
Now what's weird is the "experts" have all of John Chandler/Diana LNU children born in Greenville, SC except for one who was born in TN in 1811. John and his wife were living in Buncombe Co. NC, so did they move from Greenville to Buncombe or have they mixed up John Chandlers?
In 1810 there are only two families of Chandler/Chanler living in Buncombe,NC, John and Richard Chanler. John is over age 45 as is his wife. Now I know there were some women over 45 having babies, but that was unusual. Their last child was supposely born in 1811 in TN.We don't know how much over 45 Diana was, but even if she was only 45 in 1810 she would have been at least 46 when Andrew was born.But, her first child was born 1778, 32 yrs before. If she was only 45 in 1810 that would have made her 12-13 when she had her first child, again not impossible but improbable.I do believe the experts have combined two John Chandlers into one person.
John Chandler/Elizabeth Bottom is the branch of Chandlers I was so sure my Richard Chandler descended from as they were in the same areas of NC. My Richard moved to Franklin Co. GA where some of these Chandlers had moved earlier. Out of all the people living in Franklin Co. GA, Richard just happens to buy land from Joseph Chandler/Nancy Turman, who just happens to be descendants of this John Chandler/Elizabeth Bottom.
Then, Richard just happens to move with some of those Chandlers to Carroll Co. GA. and later living in the same area of Haralson Co. GA which was cut from Carroll Co.
Then some of those Chandlers and some of my Chandler just happen to move to the same area of AL about the same time.
According to the experts my Richard and his descendants are no kin to those Chandlers and their descendants?They name children the same names, they marry into some of the same families, they do business together, they belong to the same churches, some are buried in the same cemeteries, but they are no kin.It just doesn't make sense.
As I stated in the Chandler post yesterday, I'm almost 100% sure that the Richard Chandler in Buncombe Co. NC was mine.And if he was, there is a good possibility that at least some of the Chandlers in Buncombe area were related to Richard.
Richard's father was also named Richard b. 1751, married Martha Lindsey/Linsey. Know this from a Bible belonging to Lindsey Chandler, son of Richard b. 1775. The problem is, cannot find this Richard Chandler(proven)on any census record.He didn't die until 1842, so he should have been on several censuses.
The Richard Chandlers (of any spelling) on any records have been claimed by other Chandlers (of any spelling), and we have been told basically to keep our hands off their "Richard".I'm not too sure that some of these Richards weren't my Richard.
The only other conclusion we can come to, is that our Richard b. 1751 had two given names and that he went by the other.Know also that most people born in the 1750's didn't have two given names only one, but there were exceptions, and perhaps Richard is an exception.
But to find out who the ancestors/siblings were of either Richard Chandler is the problem. I'm hoping by tracking these other Chandlers in the area, I might find some answers.
I do know that Richard b. 1775 was in Wilkes Co. NC at one time as that is where he married Charity Parks.
I also know that the majority of his children were born in NC before moving to Franklin Co. GA.He was also in Coweta Co. for a short period of time. Then moved to Carroll Co. GA.
One of Richard Chandler (1775) children states his father was born in Ireland, one states VA and another states NC on the 1880 census. So, we don't even get any help from that.
There were Allen/Chandler marriages in the family. None in my direct line, just cousins, aunts so many times back, etc.
And of course I descend from Allens on my dad's side, my grandma was an Allen.I have been given information on my grandma Allen's side that my ancestor was West Allen, and this person gave me my tree way back to the mid 1500's to a Richard Alleyn of England. Seems he was doctor of divinity in the church of England.
I have not verified this work, so can't say whether it is all true or not, but dates, places, times, etc. does seem to match fairly well.
I can prove that Hiram Allen b. bet. 1788-1795 (man was never sure when he was born!) was my ancestor.Now whether West Allen was his father I cannot prove absolute.
My dad had said a couple of times that he thought his Allens had come from around Augusta GA, and it seems that quite a few of these Allens were in Richmond Co. GA. before moving over to AL.Hiram was in Jackson Co. GA, then Floyd Co. GA finally settling down in Talladega Co. AL. His son, Columbus H. Allen married in Calhoun Co. (probably Oxford) and lived and died in Calhoun Co. There were other Allen families in Calhoun and Talladega, but so far, haven't proven one way or the other if they were connected. There are so many Allens!
I gave up on what that nasty old aunt of mine told me, as it was all a pack of lies just to send me on a wild goose chase.Absolutely nothing she told me and a cousin, was true. Why she did this who knows?I wasted years trying to track down this information with nothing being found.If a cousin hadn't found Great grandpa Allen and great grandma's headstone in one of the family plots at the Methodist church in Eulaton, I would still be on that wild goose chase, and looking all over Atlanta for a person who never existed.