Another bit of info - thought I had added it but forgot:
Herman Vocker - 1900 Censusb. Dec 1850 MO wife Magdalene b. OH
I don't have a subscription to Ancestry.com so couldn't open the file to see more.
If Herman Vocker were born in 1850 in MO then why can't one find him in the 1880 US Census? In ANY state????He would be about 30 years old and possibly married by then? Or is he still living at home? His MO DEATH CERTIFICATE says he was a carpenter -