John, Thank you for that information. I am following the Allen line for my children. They were asking about their history. It is difficult because their great-grandfather was born as Clarence Willis Allen but adopted and last name changed to Holland. I do have the adoption information. I have followed their line, using other date, to William Allen and Ann Goodale. It looks like we branch from each other with William Allen and Mary Osgood. I am following the line of their son Joseph(who moved to Maine) and his wife Mary Baker. Have you done DNA testing? If so, where and do you have it posted.