I hope I am answering the right message. Have you tried the social security administration? If you are a child, would not your birth certificate as a child prove your right to your father's birth certificate? You would need the long form. Are you sure he is dead? Know a cop well? I found my father thru a nonrenewed driver's license. He had been dead for 2 years.Adoptees run into these problems too. Have you done a family migration?Does anyone know were they were last known to be and when? Would your grandfather's obit. help?