See my message of this date re: Allen Family, Vermont, NY. I am so excited - could Seymour and Tamer be siblings? The reference for the mother of Tamer was found at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City, on film: A History of Richard Haven of Linn, MA---and of Samuel Haven of Framingham, A Rev. War Soldier, author: Horace J. SEYMOUR. In the few days I had in SLC this March, my priority was finding a missing Haven connection on this film; next March I'll see if anything on Allen/Seymour line is on it unless the problem is solved sooner. I've seen a ref.: The Allens in Early Vermont by Myra Himelhoch - doesn't answer our questions, but it has an introduction by T. D. SEYMOUR BASSETT, Wilbur Collection, University of Vermont.Any help appreciated! Best of luck to you!