There is no need to join the Arner family webiste, just put Arner+Joe Erner into your browser and Joe's family research site should show among those listed for Arner research. Patrick is an unusual name for an Arner, I believe there was an early Arner individual in New England very early, and after we researched this curiosity we determined that he might be from Germany, and not Switzerland, and we have no concrete evidence as to whether this is so or not. However, one iffy possibility is that in 1710, Queen Anne of England actively encouraged immigration to New York State from Germany, and many thousands left Germany for England where they were kept for a year or more in camps in London. An option to staying in the camps was to join with English soldiers who were in Ireland keeping down revolts there, and some stayed in Ireland rather than going to America, settling there and intermarrying with the local people. That is as I say a possibility only. There is an Arner River in Ireland, no information about the origins of that river name has been found to date. Was your Arner b. in America, or do you know when he immigrated to America? If it was the mid 1800's his branch may have left Ireland to come over then, if there was an Arner from the group in England who did not come to NY state. Another alternative is that perhaps your Patrick's mother was Irish, and his father was from America or Germany or possibly Switzerland with a later immigration. Also is the surname definitely Arner? We just don't know if there was another Arner line from somewhere else or Switzerland who came over later. As Germany was near the northern border of Switzerland it is always possible that travel into Germany to resettle there may be the origins of the Arner's we can't figure out.