Una, Have you seen the following data regarding Pension applications and surviving extracts from the 1851 Census?
996 Surviving 1851 Census Returns of Ireland - Census Abstracts in Old Age Pension Applications CENSUS ABSTRACTS IN OLD AGE PENSION APPLICATIONS There are literally thousands of census returns in the Old Age Pension (OAP) Applications. Ireland initiated Old Age Pensions in 1908. Many applicants had to rely upon census data to prove their age. Thus, they provided the OAP office with the name of their father and mother (sometimes including the maiden name of their mother), the townland, etc., where they were living when the relevant census was taken, etc. The OAP office forwarded this information to Dublin, where the census records were held, for a search of the censuses. Many times the reply was received that the applicant was not found in the particular census. Nevertheless, the name of the applicant, the parents, and residence are still valuable genealogical information. In other cases the researchers only noted that they found the applicant in the census and provided only their age at that date. In a good number of cases the researchers included an abstract of the census return, most often incomplete but very valuable because people are listed in family groupings. Unfortunately, the OAP applications are not organized in a way which permits easy access. Thus, we have decided not to examine these records at this time. We do, however, present the following census abstracts from one set of OAP applications in order to illustrate the type of information one might find in the best of the OAP application records. The following records are certified copies of portions and complete census returns in the Public Record Office of Ireland entitled "A Census Return, 1851 - Custom House Collection." The copies were used as supporting documents for Old Age Pension Applications. The Census Returns were used to determine ages as of 30th March 1851. County: Kerry Parish: Ballinvoher Townland: Aughills 3. MARTIN ASHE, 35 (Head of Family [Married 1844] - FARMER (Kerry) (R/W - Irish & English) ELLEN ASHE, 23 (Wife) [Married 1844] - HOUSEKEEPER (Kerry) (R/W - Irish & English) MARY ASHE, 6 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - NONE (Kerry) CATHERINE ASHE, 3 (Daughter) [Unmarried] - NONE (Kerry) MARGRET ASHE, 3 months (Daughter) [Unmarried] - NONE (Kerry) JOHANNA ASHE, 76 (Mother) [Widow - Married 1801] - NONE (Kerry) DAVID ALMOND, 50 (Servant) [Married 1830] - FARMER'S LABOURER (Kerry) (R/W - Irish & English) TIMOTHY GALLIVAN, 25 (Servant) [Unmarried] - FARMER'S LABOURER (Kerry) (R/W - Irish & English) JOHN CAHALLANE, 20 (Servant) [Unmarried] - FARMER'S LABOURER (Kerry) CATHERINE BARRETT, 14 (Servant) [Unmarried] - HOUSE SERVANT (Kerry) Died since 6th June 1841: MARTIN ASHE, 70 (Father) - FARMER - Consumption - Winter 1847 FRANCIS ASHE, 28 (Brother) - CATTLE DEALER - Apoplexy - Autumn 1843 JOHANNA ASHE, 2 (Daughter) - NONE - Small Pox - Autumn 1849