Jim, and by the way, I have a son Jim. Yes I'm sure that they are my grandmother and grandfather.The only thing I know about my grandmother is that she died when my dad was about 7 years old.My dad was born in Doe Run.My grandfather died around 1953 0r 54,in Detroit, Mi. I know nothing else about her family. I mostly am interested in finding out if either of them had brothers or sisters.The only name I remember my dad talking about was Uncle Walter.I don't even know which side of the family he was on. My grandfather, dad and Aunt Edna are the only family members to come to Michigan as far as I know. Edna Aubuchon Widener married Lewis or Louis Widener and had two sons,Lewis and William. I had a brother, Richard Vernon who died here in 2003.