Re: Jacob Beelar 1750-1843
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Re: Jacob Beelar 1750-1843
Kenneth Parker 9/27/14
First of all, I want to say that I am not going to respond to most of what you have written here.
Second, I want point out to you that I, personally, have never argued with you about who was the Jacob Beeler of the pension application.I struggled with that, and I wanted it to be the older Jacob.But I finally concluded that it was the younger Jacob.So, all of your talk about the obsession about “Who fought at King’s Mountain” does not apply to me.I am sure you have had some discussions with others about this, but you haven’t had them with me.
I do have some problems with the CONTENT of the pension application, but I have not discussed them in public because I cannot prove anything.I will not discuss them here.
I have not posted anything that would support your claims of the “hoax.”I do find the word “hoax” to be an inflammatory word.You intend to insult and condemn the people you think have perpetuated it.You have shown your own obsession with the whole King’s Mountain thing.So don’t get all puffed up with phony wounded feelings at something you think is obnoxious.Your behavior has been kind-of obnoxious, also.
But then, in the middle of it all, I find this:
“3.Bogus conclusion and…….on to OTHER things. California Gold Rush! Evelyn-Have you been to Sutter’s Mill? I have been there and I don’t remember anything about a Beeler at that place. That is just an absolutely amazing bit of Beeler history. How do you do it?”
Oh, you’ve been to Sutter’s Mill.Well, good for you.And you think that everything known about the Gold Rush is there?
When you start bashing, you just can’t help going too far.I didn’t tell the whole story, so maybe that’s why you think you can attack it.First, of all, the young man’s name was John M. HACKER, not Beeler.His story is part of the HACKER history.But, he was the son of Julius and Elizabeth Beeler Hacker, my gg grandparents.Elizabeth was the daughter of Daniel Beeler, son of Jacob Beeler 1750-1843.So it is also part of the Jacob Beeler (1750-1843) history.
In 1860, John M. HACKER was in Amador Co., California working as a miner.He was 30 years old, born in Tennessee, so his birth year was 1830.Those facts fit my gg uncle.John M. HACKER enlisted in the Union Army on 29 September, 1863 in Marysville, California.He probably came to Marysville because his father’s cousin, Eli Hacker, was living there with his family in that area.Eli Hacker had moved his family from Tennessee through a series of moves that ended in Yolo County, California.While in Marysville, John M. Hacker enlisted.His service is well-documented, and he was mustered out 15 Dec 1865.He applied for a pension in 1890, and received it.
John M. Hacker stayed on in California after the war.Eli Hacker helped him purchase land in Humboldt County.He was a farmer, then.He evidently married an Indian woman by whom he had two sons.He is found on the 1880 Fed Census living as a widower with two Indian boys named William and John.He is further documented in census records and voter registration lists.
The other John M. Hacker was John’s first cousin.He was the son of John and Cyntha Ann Beeler.Cyntha Ann was a sister of Elizabeth Beeler, my gg grandmother, the daughter of Daniel Beeler and the granddaughter of Jacob Beeler 1750-1843.This John M. lived in El Dorado Co., California from about 1851 to 1859.Then he returned to Missouri where he was living in his mother’s household in 1860.His father had died in 1848.He became a prominent farmer in Missouri and Arkansas.He did not serve in either army during the Civil War.
As to the Benjamin A. Beeler issue, I have to refer to statements in the court cases.I have posted this elsewhere, but will post it again.
One of the court cases was brought by Catherine Beeler Smith against Daniel Beeler Sr., Daniel Beeler, Jr. George Beeler, and others.The “others” included Benjamin A. Beeler.I am going to quote from a narrative in the decision that was rendered by Hon. Seth J. W. Lucky.
“24 Dec 1856.Catherine Smith By her next friend vs. Daniel Beeler, Benjamin A. Beeler, P. M. Rogers & Daniel Smith.
“Be it remembered that this cause came on to be heard and determined on the 24th day of December 1856 before the Hon. Seth J. W. Lucky Chancellor upon the bill, answer, exhibits & proofs & it appearing that this cause had been regularly brought to a hearing the court being satisfied from the proof that the land mentioned in the pleadings was about the year 1815 conveyed to Jacob Beeler who never the less suffered and permitted his son the Respondent Benjamin A . Beeler to hold it by himself and others for a period of same (sic) twenty years and upwards prior to his death in 1843.That the said Jacob Beeler in the year 1837 executed his last will & testament by which he devised said land to the said Benjamin A. Beeler provided that within one year, after the decease of the testator he would pay unto the complainant the sum of $200.00, but if he did not pay the same, then he should have but ten dollars out of the testator’s estate and the Court is of the opinion that the said Benjamin may not hold under the will & adversely to it & controvert the testator’s title to the land.It further appears that after the testator’s death said Benjamin continued to hold & claim the said land under his father’s will but without making payment of the said legacy of $200.00 to the complt. until the 18th day of March 1851, when he made a settlement of the matter with the complt. & her husband Daniel Smith, and took their receipt for the legacy amounting at that date to $286.50 cents. . . .”
Please note the following points made in this excerpt:
• Land mentioned in the pleadings was conveyed to Jacob Beeler in 1815, and he permitted “his son the Respondent Benjamin A. Beeler” to hold it (or manage it).
• Benjamin A. Beeler managed the land until Jacob’s death in 1843.The year proves which Jacob was the father.
• Jacob Beeler made and executed a will in 1837 that stipulated the conditions under which Benjamin would obtain the land—namely that he would pay the complainant (Catherine Beeler Smith) $200 as her share of her father’s estate.
• If Benjamin did not comply with this condition, he would lose the land and would receive only “ten dollars” from the estate.
This excerpt identifies Benjamin A. Beeler as the son of Jacob 1750-1843.I don’t know why Benjamin was so “distraught” over $200.He should have just paid Catherine the money; it would have saved everyone a lot of trouble.But he didn’t, and we have the court cases full of documentation.
There was a second court case in which Benjamin Beeler sued Daniel Beeler.Daniel Beeler had moved his family from Claiborne Co. to Anderson/Union Co. about 1837.Benjamin A. Beeler rented him this 300 acre farm.Benjamin’s lawsuit contained a lengthy narrative in which all aspects of the matter were included.Near the beginning of the narrative, the text says, referring to the 300 acre farm, “This tract of land he received from his father, who still retained the title but had no interest in it.”Further along, we find this statement:“About the year 1837 he rented the land by paid to his brother Daniel Beeler of Union Co., who was since . . . lives upon the land.”Still further along, we find this:“Not far from the year 184 [sic] the father of your orator departed this life having first made and published his last will & testament in which he devised this tract of land to your orator . . .”The narrative then goes on to describe Benjamin’s obligation to pay $200 to Catherine Beeler Smith, etc.
The narrative is lengthy, and it continues with other references to Benjamin being the brother of Daniel and/or Catherine.These are the references in official documents that state who Benjamin’s father is.He is Jacob Beeler 1750-1843.Now, I don’t care one way or another about this.If you have proof that Benjamin is a grandson of John V. Beeler, then cough it up.Otherwise, I personally will believe that Benjamin was, indeed, the son of Jacob Beeler 1750-1843.
PROOF THAT JACOB BEELER 1750-1843 WAS IN SULLIVAN COUNTY BEFORE 1812.
I have given proofs before, but you glossed over them and either didn’t notice, or dismissed them.
1.We have now established that Jacob Beeler 1750-1843 was the father of Daniel Beeler.“Claiborne County (TN) deed records.Deeds A, log 241.Deed, Joseph Young of Sullivan Co. TN to Jacob Beeler of the same place.1 November 1805, proved by oath of Isaac Beeler in March 1806.For $366 & 2/3, 400 acres in Claiborne Co. on north side of Clinch River on the end of Lone Mountain . . .”Jacob Beeler 1750-1843 was in Sullivan County, and purchased 400 acres.In 1810 his son Daniel Beeler moved his young family from Sullivan County to Claiborne County.They lived on Jacob’s land.In 1813 Daniel Beeler bought 385 acres of this land from his father, Jacob.
“Claiborne County (TN) deed records.Deed D, p. 59.Deed, Jacob Beeler of Sullivan Co. to Daniel Beeler of Claiborne Co. 2 March 1812, registered 23 January 1813.For $300, 385 acres . . .”
2.About 1800, the Conrad Scheretz family moved from Pennsylvania down to Claiborne County.This can be documented when Conrad purchased land.In 1804 Daniel Beeler married Mary Margaret Scheretz, daughter of Conrad Scheretz.In 1805 or 1806 Elizabeth Beeler married John Scheretz.The marriages are documented on a family tree that wasposted on the “My Family” web site.In order for these young people to have met each other, courted, fallen love, and gotten married, the Jacob Beeler family would have had to be living in Sullivan County probably by 1800.Young unmarried people did not live on their own in those days.They generally lived with their families until they got married.This was especially true for girls.
“John Phillip Scheretz (b. 1 Aug 1783-York Co., PA; d. abt June 1821, Knoxville, TN), sp: Elizabeth Beeler, (m. abt 1805)”
“Mary Margaret Scheretz (b. 29 Jul 1785, Hanover, York Co., PA; d. 29 Nov 1865, Sullivan Co., TN), sp:Daniel Beeler”
(Actually, Mary Margaret Scheretz Beeler died in Jefferson County, Missouri.The Family Tree says Sullivan Co., but I know that is not right.)
Family Tree:“Descendants of Arnhulz Scheretz”The papers were contributed to Paul Gill by Edgar Feathers.Paul Gill says they were in the possession of his great Aunt Nancy Weaver Jeter in 1970.
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Re: Jacob Beelar 1750-1843
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