Bingo! I am sorry to take so long to reply but life has been hectic. I decided to finally reply to another message and opened yours as I went down the list. My great great gradnfather was John Betz who came from Germany and married Anna Mainz. He had 3 brothers. Two settled in Pennsylvania and one in St. Louis. That brother started the Rolled Gold Pretzel Company. John Betz came by the Ohio River to St. Paul. He became a shoemaker on the site of the St. Paul Library.