Charles, For 15 years I was a miner in the Wigan area, in 1970 I had a change of career and worked for 31 years in Local Government. I am now retired at the age of 60. In the 1980s I decided to research my family tree and discovered that I was a seventh generation miner. I traced my Birchall family (all in the Wigan area back to approx 1815. Now that I have retired, I decided to look again at my search notes and using the internet discovered this web site. Where I spotted your e-mail. Looking at my tree there is a James Birchall born 1856 son of my great great grandfather Joseph (1853-1924). Perhaps this is too late a date. Before that I have my great great great (phew) grandfather who some time in 1815 is listed with 6 sons but I only record my direct line ie Thomas and do not know the name of the other 5 sons, but I will try again to see if there is a James amongst them.
Here is the early part of the tree
Joseph Birchall Married Mary? (Parish records 4th Feb 1814) | | Son1Son2Son3Son4Son5Son6 Thomas born 1815 | | Thomas (miner) married Ann Dawson 12July 1841 | | Margaret(b1849) William(b1851)James(b1856)SarahAnn(b1860) Joseph(1853-1924.
note Joseph being my great Grandfather.
Well Charles reading all this seems confusing to me hope you can understand it. If it is usefull to you I could as stated earlier look at Josephs unnamed sons Regard Edmund Birchall